Thread: READ!! PS3ISO's back and NO EXPLANATION?!

It does not matter. Stop complaining

Originally Posted by Warning

It does not matter. Stop complaining

Excuse me? The last time I checked this site, nor PS3hax, nor PS3crunch were yours. Therefore when was it your right to tell anyone that their opinion doesn't matter and they should stop voicing it? You seem to carry your misguided and overinflated ego wherever you go. Likewise you seem to only attach yourself to people who share your misguided and overinflated ego. Do you do anything else but suck up to the overlords in this scene? NOTE: I'm not labeling the administrator with these stigmas. I'm merely pointing out that you seem to only align yourself with someone else's opinion and for some reason cannot make an opinion of your own. nor can you contribute anything to a discussion. Even though I hate using this stigma, your nothing more then a troll.

Seriously you bring no value to a conversation, debate, or argument. Likewise you seem to be only capable of somehow telling a whole community that the established standards and concepts of said community are irrelevant and they should all follow the opinion of the scene overlord or other "big guy" that you currently have your head shoved up said person's ***.

I'll say this again, this is a community and a forum. What is a community forum for? It's for like minded people to come and enjoy their interests together while fueling debate and voicing their opinions. If you cannot understand that concept or simply don't like that concept, then go to some service like a blog where YOURS and only YOUR opinion matters.

Jesus I'm tired of seeing comments like this from you. Your despised at PS3crunch, your despised at PS3hax, and before PSX-scene went to **** you were despised there as well. Pretty soon you'll be despised here as well because you have the innate desire to shove your head up someone else's *** and consume their philosophies, opinions, and stance instead of coming up with your own.

I apologize to everyone else for the comments above. But I've seen him on numerous sites basically saying the same thing and I'm quite frankly tired of it. He for some reason assumes that only his opinion matters and no one else's.

Originally Posted by coragin001

I am going to say Hakufu is and has been absolutely correct on all his points up till now. If you cannot get your server team to reply on day one of a downtime to an email "PS3ISO is down", then there is a serious problem.

If the Admins here did in fact send an email to the server team on day one and the server team did not reply, then the problem is right there.

However if the Admins did not contact the server team the problem lies with the Administrators of the site, not the server.

And those who say be thankful the site is here at all. We are thankful, but those who have put a lot of time and hours into Tutorials, Game threads, Helping and Reporting News (More time than any of the staff have put in). They are the ones asking for an answer for the downtime, they are the ones who make this site and keep it going.

And if anyone says they do not deserve an answer, then the person who says that needs their head examined, the people asking for an answer are the oens who can make or break this community. And that is fact.

And to just say to be thankful there is a site at all, well not only is it childish to say that, but I would think another would pop up.

Just my thoughts.

I'm slightly confused, are you saying I'm wrong in this current situation? That I have put the blame on a party that doesn't deserve it? if so I have to correct you, I'm putting blame on both parties. The administrators and the server admins. but the blame leans more towards the party who is breaking up the communication. While a smaller portion of the blame goes to the party who has not stepped forward and decided they need the correct tools at their disposal to pick up the leg work for the party who is neglecting their duties. From what I've read it seems both parties do share the blame. One more then the other of course. But if the server team cannot keep up with the responsibility they need to give the people who can keep up with that responsibility the necessary tools to do so. But I will say that if the admins haven't requested the proper tools to take over the reigns of the actual server administration, they do in fact share some blame. If they see a problem, as administrators they should do everything in their power to help mitigate that problem. Again these are my observations and I of course cannot see what goes on behind the scenes so I could very well be wrong in my assumption that the admins have not tried getting the necessary tools to take over the server administration. And if any of those said admins believes I'm being entirely disrespectful, I greatly apologize. I don't mean to be disrespectful to them. I'm just voicing my concerns because I see a wonderful community that seems to be taken a few hits in terms of quality because of server administrators who don't seem to have the time, nor the ability, to maintain the network they are in charge of. I'm merely voicing my concerns in an effort to help this community and if the administrators didn't ask for the necessary tools, to hopefully guide them into that direction.

As for being grateful, I am in fact grateful that the servers are now up. But me like many others do have a right to voice our opinions when the userbase keeps this community alive. (this statement is in general and is not specifically directed at you.) While yes compared to the more active members here I really don't mean a damn thing, but as a member of this community I still have a small right to know what has happened. As long as I contribute to this community, I deserve to know why it falters, etc, at times. But again that pales in comparison to the more active and more contributing members.

As I have said before, if the server administrators are the root of the problems, the administrators need to step up and tell the server team to give them the necessary tools to fix the issue. So both sides are to blame. Of course the administrators have the blame to a lesser extent.

Originally Posted by Master Shin

I never said it was hard to get hold of boj, i said it was hard to get a meaningful response from him apart from ''were working on it''. i am not taking it out on anyone, great 18 times you counted i said 2 because that's what venomous was talking about. how can the PS3ISO admins REPLACE the server team who control all the iso sites? brilliant logic there.

if you want to boycott and not post that's your choice, don't vent it out on the admins as its our fault we need to replace the server team yadda yadda yadda.

The administrators don't need to fully replace the server team to fix the issue. What needs to happen is you the administrators need to be handed the necessary tools, and access to fulfill the same requirements as the server team. if the server team has access, I know they can give you guys access. Then the problem would be mitigated.

Actually whether you want to admit it or not you as the administration as well as your fellow colleagues do share some blame. If you don't have the necessary tools to take over in the absence of the server team, you need to get those tools. Just passing the blame solely onto another party's shoulders is contributing to the problem as well.

Originally Posted by tonybologna

Very good point! This site seems to be the ISO site that goes offline the most. You almost never see Wiiso go down. If it does it's because of an upgrade or maintenance. That's a rare occurrence though.

360ISO still has problems but not nearly as often as PS3ISO. I just find it odd that every single time this happens the server team is to blame. That may be true but isn't it time for a replacement server team or another option? There's a lot members here that make significant contributions to this site. More needs to be done to assure the site stays online as much as possible. Thanks!

good luck replacing the owners xD

That said they need to keep up with this site, it seems to be completely neglected. I daresay even admins dont have full control over this site.

Originally Posted by superboy1281

good luck replacing the owners xD

That said they need to keep up with this site, it seems to be completely neglected. I daresay even admins dont have full control over this site.

From what I'm reading I assume the same thing. The admins don't have the necessary control over the site that they should have. That in and of itself is a huge problem as well.

Originally Posted by Master Shin

I never said it was hard to get hold of boj, i said it was hard to get a meaningful response from him apart from ''were working on it''. i am not taking it out on anyone, great 18 times you counted i said 2 because that's what venomous was talking about. how can the PS3ISO admins REPLACE the server team who control all the iso sites? brilliant logic there.

if you want to boycott and not post that's your choice, don't vent it out on the admins as its our fault we need to replace the server team yadda yadda yadda.

who's taking it out on/blaming the admins?? My response was directed at the server team, and the lack of response from them. Yes, I mentioned that it's not hard to get in touch with Boj...if that's been done, fine, but I've seen no evidence of it, and if it is in fact true that they have been contacted, then this situation lies entirely in their laps. I feel like we have been ignored, though, and I'm extremely disappointed that the owners can't get their asses in gear and take care of this.

Most people in this thread haven't been around the network long enough to remember, but a few years back, wiiso crashed....BIG TIME!! All data, threads, posts, etc. were lost and the site started from scratch....literally, as if it was a brand new site. Following that crash, the site went down on a regular basis....just as much as PS3iso has been down lately, if not more. This is nothing new!! This is every drop of fuel for my anger right now. This happens to every single iso site, and it's getting extremely tiring seeing error messages for iso network websites.

I'm seriously doing my best to hold back my rage out of respect for the owners here, as I know they are a pretty good bunch of guys from conversations I've had with them....but I'm really starting to lose my cool with this, and something needs to be done before all the members here are lost and this site just fizzles and dies. That's going to be the inevitable outcome if something doesn't change....FAST!!

BTW...to those who suggest the admins take over server control...it will never happen. The site's owners ARE the server team (Bojeunx, TinTin & FairBlack). They are the exact same people, and they just aren't going to relinquish control of their own website....and I don't blame them either. I sure wouldn't do it if I owned the site(s)

Originally Posted by Master Shin

see you later. oh and you can hand in your news reporter position too.

how many times has it been said it's not in our power? contacting the server team has been done, but getting a reply is nearly impossible. after all these years since it was ps2iso.net (yes we did also go down then) you are leaving because of 2 unexplained server downtime? dont forget that us admins worked our *** off here too.

First of all, I'm really to know how little you think of me. All I say is : thank you sir. And for the record, NONE OF THE ADMINS said anything about not being able to contact the server team or not getting any reply. I know because I read every single word posted in this thread. It was our dear mods who kindly pointed that out. Not you, not the Doc. You just somehow assumed that we magically know, but how could we, if you dont grace us with your presence?

And our questions didnt not come out only because of the recent downtimes, but as an overall reaction over the last few months. It just culminated now and the last downtimes are the most fresh in our memories.

And for the record, NO ONE DISSED THE ADMINS. All our replies were carefully worded and if any trolls happened/tried to be triggered, then you sir is the source of that. You have TWICE come to this thread, ignore our respectful questions and replies, and simply go off-topic, trolling at your heart's pleasure and I quote:

LOL the real story is the staff shut off ps3iso and were all at the bbq party at my house with 3.7cfw from demonhades.

true story i have pics

And

told the doc to stop streaming pr0ns on our server, never listens

I think your respect for any and all members of this community is crystal clear here

So, my decision is the following:
I'll wait until the 20th of October for any response from the server team. If none are given, then I will be formally quitting PS3ISO and you can have my position then, I for one do not need power to ascertain myself and my arguments.

I used to respect all of you, you know, and the worst part, I still can't get myself over this. But you broke this trust.

This will be my last post in this thread unless something ground-breaking happens. Thanks for everyone who made me love this site, you were great
and I trully enjoyed it.

Originally Posted by Hakufu1021

Excuse me? The last time I checked this site, nor PS3hax, nor PS3crunch were yours. Therefore when was it your right to tell anyone that their opinion doesn't matter and they should stop voicing it? You seem to carry your misguided and overinflated ego wherever you go. Likewise you seem to only attach yourself to people who share your misguided and overinflated ego. Do you do anything else but suck up to the overlords in this scene? NOTE: I'm not labeling the administrator with these stigmas. I'm merely pointing out that you seem to only align yourself with someone else's opinion and for some reason cannot make an opinion of your own. nor can you contribute anything to a discussion. Even though I hate using this stigma, your nothing more then a troll.

Seriously you bring no value to a conversation, debate, or argument. Likewise you seem to be only capable of somehow telling a whole community that the established standards and concepts of said community are irrelevant and they should all follow the opinion of the scene overlord or other "big guy" that you currently have your head shoved up said person's ***.

I'll say this again, this is a community and a forum. What is a community forum for? It's for like minded people to come and enjoy their interests together while fueling debate and voicing their opinions. If you cannot understand that concept or simply don't like that concept, then go to some service like a blog where YOURS and only YOUR opinion matters.

Jesus I'm tired of seeing comments like this from you. Your despised at PS3crunch, your despised at PS3hax, and before PSX-scene went to **** you were despised there as well. Pretty soon you'll be despised here as well because you have the innate desire to shove your head up someone else's *** and consume their philosophies, opinions, and stance instead of coming up with your own.

I apologize to everyone else for the comments above. But I've seen him on numerous sites basically saying the same thing and I'm quite frankly tired of it. He for some reason assumes that only his opinion matters and no one else's.



I'm slightly confused, are you saying I'm wrong in this current situation? That I have put the blame on a party that doesn't deserve it? if so I have to correct you, I'm putting blame on both parties. The administrators and the server admins. but the blame leans more towards the party who is breaking up the communication. While a smaller portion of the blame goes to the party who has not stepped forward and decided they need the correct tools at their disposal to pick up the leg work for the party who is neglecting their duties. From what I've read it seems both parties do share the blame. One more then the other of course. But if the server team cannot keep up with the responsibility they need to give the people who can keep up with that responsibility the necessary tools to do so. But I will say that if the admins haven't requested the proper tools to take over the reigns of the actual server administration, they do in fact share some blame. If they see a problem, as administrators they should do everything in their power to help mitigate that problem. Again these are my observations and I of course cannot see what goes on behind the scenes so I could very well be wrong in my assumption that the admins have not tried getting the necessary tools to take over the server administration. And if any of those said admins believes I'm being entirely disrespectful, I greatly apologize. I don't mean to be disrespectful to them. I'm just voicing my concerns because I see a wonderful community that seems to be taken a few hits in terms of quality because of server administrators who don't seem to have the time, nor the ability, to maintain the network they are in charge of. I'm merely voicing my concerns in an effort to help this community and if the administrators didn't ask for the necessary tools, to hopefully guide them into that direction.

As for being grateful, I am in fact grateful that the servers are now up. But me like many others do have a right to voice our opinions when the userbase keeps this community alive. (this statement is in general and is not specifically directed at you.) While yes compared to the more active members here I really don't mean a damn thing, but as a member of this community I still have a small right to know what has happened. As long as I contribute to this community, I deserve to know why it falters, etc, at times. But again that pales in comparison to the more active and more contributing members.

As I have said before, if the server administrators are the root of the problems, the administrators need to step up and tell the server team to give them the necessary tools to fix the issue. So both sides are to blame. Of course the administrators have the blame to a lesser extent.



The administrators don't need to fully replace the server team to fix the issue. What needs to happen is you the administrators need to be handed the necessary tools, and access to fulfill the same requirements as the server team. if the server team has access, I know they can give you guys access. Then the problem would be mitigated.

Actually whether you want to admit it or not you as the administration as well as your fellow colleagues do share some blame. If you don't have the necessary tools to take over in the absence of the server team, you need to get those tools. Just passing the blame solely onto another party's shoulders is contributing to the problem as well.

It does not matter. Stop complaining

LOL this site has to be one of the worst managed sites in the history of the internet..the admins are not to blame but the server team..its clear that they dont give 2 ****s about this site given how long it takes to come back up...however, someone did raise a good point and that is why is it that its the ps3iso site that has these terrible problems and not the other iso sites? The fact that certain people have gotten use to this since the ps2iso era and dont see it as a big deal when the site goes down really speaks for itself as that is ridiculous...

There is nothing great i can do atm.I am very busy with my personal life due to major projects on my hand.The server hasnt explained to me anything so its just no use of asking as you wont know anything unless i know first.I apologize from my side that i wasn't active or else i would do something about it but currently they are completely not in touch with anyone so there's nothing i can do about it.The advice i can give you guys is simply ignore it give sometime and all will be sorted out .

Originally Posted by CrimsonX

Originally Posted by VenomusX

If there is nothing you really can do, you know WHO knows (Bojeunx and fairblack), then it is your responsibility as an Admin to get in touch with them and complain about the downtimes. They are active on other ISO site and have been contacted b4 for the VB4 changes and others. So it's clearly not an issue to get in touch with them if you really tried. If they didnt respond, or ignored you, then you should tell us that you've done your best and you're waiting for a response. Just saying "no it isn't" you're throwing away your responsibility and blaming it on someone else, someone that we, users, can't get in touch with (or at least wont listen to us unlike if we were an Admin).

So yeah, please do elaborate. 3 words answers? Hah.

Lemme resolve this quick.

You call someone on the phone. If he/she doesn't answer, is your fault?
Same thing with the admins and the server team.

Exactly.
How do you expect someone to give an answer for something when their questions about that something go unanswered.
Topic locked because there are no answers to give until some are given.